Why Grant Robertson said no to being Prime Minister
Election day is 7 November and politics is everywhere right now... but here’s a different kind of perspective on it.
We’re re-releasing our conversation with Grant Robertson about what the job costs the people doing it — whichever way you vote (Todd Muller’s episode is back in your feed today too).
“I’m a catastrophiser,” admits New Zealand’s former Deputy Prime Minister.
Behind years of COVID decisions sat a panic attack he didn’t see coming. As pressure mounted to replace Jacinda Ardern, he was ready to reluctantly say yes — until one sentence from his partner Alf stopped him cold.
Grant talks about the physical toll of “giving 110%,” the counselling that got him through his final year, the homophobia that was a constant, and the phrase he uses to interrupt his worst-case thinking.
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Kent Johns is a health coach, broadcaster and motivational speaker. Visit his website here.